Forces and Courses

Log from #SerenitysFire on Monday, August 12, 2013 at 8PM EDT:  “Forces and Courses”, hosted by Gorath:

[19:55:37] <Gorath> first a brief explaination of the class title Forces and Courses
[19:56:01] <Gorath> I ain’t talking about Jedi eating meals…mind you that WAS going to be the class graphic LOL
[19:56:18] <Adara> lol
[19:57:00] <Gorath> I know a few of you have had your experiences with energy work and and defense work
[19:57:41] <Gorath> There are many schools of thought when it comes to defensive techniques with energy work and just energy in general
[19:58:01] <Gorath> One of the most common and widely used methods is shielding
[19:58:31] <Gorath> As widely used as shielding is, it is not the Only defenses
[19:58:46] <Gorath> forces was a reference to shielding
[19:59:04] <Gorath> Courses is a reference to what I personally use.
[19:59:37] <Gorath> I don’t use shields at all unless to utilize them for something outside of my norm
[20:00:03] <Gorath> only reason I’m mentioning this is to give you a perspective that there is more out there than just shields
[20:00:12] <Gorath> Personaly I Eat
[20:00:23] <Gorath> hence courses
[20:00:45] <Gorath> being the nature of what I am energetically, it works for me. Might not work for many others
[20:00:59] <Gorath> there is also diversion as a defense
[20:01:08] <Gorath> what some people refer to as warping
[20:01:31] <Gorath> Armoring (different than shilding)
[20:02:00] <Gorath> and Even offensive tactics as used as a good defense
[20:02:12] <Gorath> not offense itself, just the tactics in using it
[20:02:28] <Gorath> there is also cloaking, shifting, null
[20:02:48] <Gorath> as I mentioned many schools of thought and all of which I’ve encountered over the years
[20:03:24] <Gorath> Courses also refers to the Buffet of options you can take
[20:04:11] <Gorath> many of us get stuck in “shielding” because it’s the most general lesson we learn and honestly…we Naturally do it before we are even aware of it.
[20:04:39] <Gorath> so before I continue, any one has any questions so far or need me to clarify any terms?
[20:05:26] <Gorath> no?
[20:05:47] <Gorath> Then let me get to the heart of one fact many forget and something that will open up a lot
[20:05:52] <Gorath> Energy
[20:06:22] <Gorath> Whether an attack, defense, scan, trace, wave, feeling, whatever
[20:06:27] <Gorath> Energy is energy
[20:06:39] <Gorath> nothing more or less
[20:06:51] <Gorath> we manipulate it, shape it
[20:06:56] <Gorath> but it is still energy
[20:07:02] * Adara nods
[20:07:16] <Gorath> you can call it whatever you want
[20:07:21] <Gorath> pull it from wherever
[20:07:31] <Gorath> but does not change the fact it is what it is and will not be anything else
[20:07:33] <Gorath> and
[20:07:44] <Gorath> it is WHAT we are in every plane
[20:08:05] <Gorath> as it is, the weak and strong force that holds out physical atoms together is…energy
[20:08:11] <Gorath> the atoms themselves
[20:08:17] <Gorath> our very essence
[20:08:20] <Gorath> energy
[20:08:28] <Gorath> now with that said
[20:09:02] <Gorath> we do NOT have the ability to affect a change over energy in a way to physically change matter
[20:09:08] <Gorath> we are not that connected
[20:09:20] <Gorath> may never be that connected
[20:09:25] * Adara nods
[20:09:41] <Gorath> and probably a good thing too…would hate to blow up my customers at work for being stupid
[20:09:48] <Adara> lol
[20:09:52] <Gorath> (would have blown away half the town by now)
[20:10:02] <Adara> mhmm
[20:10:19] <Gorath> but energy is energy and on some level, we Can connect and manipulate it
[20:10:39] <Gorath> now you can use pranic energy, cosmic, elemental, whatever
[20:10:51] <Gorath> it’s still energy, just has a different flavor to it
[20:11:02] <Adara> right
[20:11:14] <Gorath> why am I going on about energy?
[20:11:32] <Gorath> because anything you do defensively or offensively, is energetic
[20:11:39] <Gorath> so shields
[20:11:44] <Gorath> Great tool
[20:12:12] <Gorath> you can raise and lower it, power it from many different sources and ways, make many and varied sizes
[20:12:17] <Gorath> they can even filter
[20:12:31] <Gorath> they can be used for cloaking, and nullification
[20:12:49] <Gorath> but they have a fatal flaw with the right opponent
[20:12:59] <Gorath> they are energy
[20:13:24] <Gorath> now my offensive and defensive techniques is based on Eating
[20:13:31] <Gorath> can you tell me what I eat?
[20:13:34] <MoonWind> does any sort of sympathetic resonance come into play here with energy defense/offense/shaping?
[20:14:00] <Gorath> Moon: yes
[20:14:06] <ThundraFire> 🙂
[20:14:15] <Gorath> resonance helps with shaping, modulating and even tracking
[20:14:15] <MoonWind> Gorath: chinese food, bbq and cheese vegetables from what i saw
[20:14:18] <Gorath> LOL
[20:14:23] <Gorath> I eat energy
[20:14:31] <Gorath> it’s my nature to
[20:14:33] <Gorath> so I use it
[20:14:39] <Gorath> so shields = lunch
[20:14:45] <Gorath> BUT
[20:14:52] <Gorath> that too has a fatal flaw
[20:15:00] <Gorath> Overeating
[20:15:04] <Gorath> I know it sounds funny
[20:15:16] <Gorath> but too much energy can be a huge risk
[20:15:49] <Gorath> also can cause the eater to be exposed to “poisonous variants” of energy
[20:15:59] <Gorath> using poison for the lack of a better term
[20:16:44] <Gorath> You can change the flavor of energy to suit your need but “eat” the wrong kinds, and you screw your system, hence why filtering and adaptation is an important thing for me
[20:16:58] <Gorath> then there are people that use warping
[20:17:47] <Gorath> shields are weak to warping because their very shape can be changed not to mention they can be circumvented with enough skill (especially when someone has a trace of your sig)
[20:17:56] <ThundraFire> 🙂
[20:18:07] <Gorath> Eating is useless with warp defenses until the warped is out
[20:18:24] <Gorath> but also warping has its fatal flaw
[20:18:55] <Gorath> you can only stretch yourself so far and thin and warp in the wrong direction and you can be trapped or even intercepted…you can still be traced through a warp
[20:19:37] <Gorath> So proactive defenses have their pros and major cons
[20:20:17] <Gorath> then sympathetic defenses are an option like cloaking, nulling, shifting, gating, so on and so on
[20:20:36] <Gorath> and prevention is ALWAYS the safest method to a fight
[20:20:40] <Gorath> BUT
[20:20:55] <Gorath> they rely on energy as well
[20:21:16] <Gorath> Moon mentioned sympathetic resonance
[20:21:35] <Gorath> one of the best ways to find someone that hides is throwing a stone in the water if you catch my meaning
[20:22:03] <Gorath> cloaking can be detected with the energy used to draw it up
[20:22:16] <Gorath> shifting can be detected with the change of surrounding fields
[20:22:39] <Gorath> nulling is the opposite with detecting the lack of energy in area
[20:22:59] <Gorath> this method of defense honestly is the single hardest
[20:23:21] <Gorath> you have to understand yourself, your energy, your surroundings and your nature
[20:23:32] <Gorath> no defense is perfect
[20:24:01] <Gorath> and sympathetic defenses are difficult. If not to do, then to maintain
[20:24:35] <Gorath> honestly, look at nature
[20:24:53] <Gorath> look at the defenses animals on the physical plane have evolved to using
[20:25:07] <Gorath> the most pure form of design and function
[20:25:16] <Gorath> holds true to energy as well
[20:25:31] * Adara nods
[20:25:53] <Gorath> you can have a sympathetic defense like a stick bug that has not only evolved to look like a stick but also moves like the wind is blowing it
[20:26:38] <Gorath> you can have an active defense like an Amazonian poison dart tree frog where it is brightly-colored and shielded by one of the most deadly known toxins in existence
[20:27:23] <Gorath> but just as perfect as those natural defenses are….both bug and frog still can get killed as a result of their own defenses.
[20:27:39] <Gorath> I am not a god
[20:27:44] <Gorath> nor are you
[20:27:52] <Adara> Never tried that whole stone throw thing, usually I extend out my own energy and feel out the area, as if I have feelers, never tried tossing something out there and just seeing what responds
[20:27:55] <Gorath> as much as we would like to be omnipotent
[20:28:10] <MoonWind> i may not be a god, but expect the worship of such. Cat here yanno.
[20:28:17] <Adara> lol
[20:28:23] <Gorath> lol
[20:28:50] <Gorath> Adara: using your energy to feel the area is a good tactic but not in battle
[20:28:57] <Gorath> you’re using YOUR energy
[20:29:07] <MoonWind> gives away your position, i’d imagine
[20:29:09] <Gorath> it’s a direct/indirect link to you
[20:29:36] <Gorath> Moon: that as well
[20:29:47] <Gorath> think spider web
[20:29:57] <Gorath> as one tactic
[20:30:07] <Gorath> the spider stands on it and waits for the vibrations
[20:30:07] <MoonWind> (i’m a stalker by nature so that’s where my mind goes: stealth)
[20:30:44] <Gorath> if the web gets busted, well the spider is out a web but it is no worse for wear
[20:31:25] <Gorath> none of us can get away from the fact that energy connects us all
[20:31:36] <Gorath> all we can do is make it harder for the other to make that connection
[20:31:50] <Gorath> but opening doors is never the best think to do
[20:32:05] <Gorath> I used to use a stone skipping technique
[20:32:29] <Gorath> throwing out a wave and feeling what comes back
[20:32:33] <Gorath> like sonar
[20:32:42] <Gorath> but as you said, gives away your position
[20:33:18] <Gorath> so what to do
[20:33:25] <Gorath> ?
[20:33:43] <Gorath> This is why experimenting and trial by fire is SO important
[20:33:53] <Gorath> not to mention knowing yourself
[20:34:01] <Adara> true
[20:34:11] <Gorath> knowing Who you are, What you are and being honest with yourself
[20:34:24] <Gorath> hence my comment
[20:34:30] <Gorath> “I am not a god”
[20:35:03] <Gorath> I’m sure many of you have seen the “next coming of energy Jesus” in channels
[20:35:36] <Gorath> Many proclaim they are invincible, strongest by far
[20:35:46] <Gorath> who are we to say they are not
[20:35:53] * Gorath shrugs
[20:35:54] <Gorath> BUT
[20:35:58] <Gorath> 90
[20:36:00] <Gorath> %
[20:36:02] <Gorath> are
[20:36:03] <Gorath> full
[20:36:03] <Adara> lol
[20:36:04] <Gorath> of
[20:36:06] <Gorath> shit
[20:36:22] <Gorath> and honestly
[20:36:36] <Gorath> come on…we have all had that “I’m a bad ass” stage
[20:37:02] <Gorath> comes with connecting with something larger than we ever knew
[20:37:12] <Gorath> you learn you can use energy
[20:37:21] <Gorath> …I mean WOW that’s fucking awesome!
[20:37:36] <Gorath> “I am a bad ass!”
[20:37:48] <Gorath> but the truth is we are still us
[20:37:51] <Gorath> normal
[20:37:52] <Gorath> human
[20:38:17] <Gorath> we just are aware of something the rest of the monkeys only dream about in scifi
[20:38:36] <Gorath> so…
[20:38:40] <Gorath> “I am not a God”
[20:38:55] <Gorath> this is the basic truth and reality of us
[20:39:21] <Gorath> still
[20:39:32] <Gorath> we are aware of something very special
[20:39:36] <Gorath> very precious
[20:39:51] <Gorath> something that honestly, we have to have as much faith in as belief
[20:40:28] <Gorath> so as you grow stronger in yourself and what you know, you grow stronger with energy
[20:40:34] <Gorath> because it’s no longer a tool
[20:40:42] <Gorath> it’s who You are
[20:41:14] <Adara> lol *nods*
[20:41:25] <Gorath> that thought alone will be the greatest shield you will ever have
[20:42:06] <Gorath> You can proudly say “come at me Bro!” knowing that no matter what they throw at you, it’s just more of who you are
[20:43:15] <Gorath> This understanding is what is lacking in many
[20:43:23] <ThundraFire> 🙂
[20:44:07] <Gorath> Can’t cloak? No problem you can shield like a mofo, but try to understand why you can’t cloak
[20:44:19] <Gorath> just as an example
[20:45:46] <Gorath> I know I’m sounding all Zen and what not but honestly, knowing your energy and yourself is the best base to start on
[20:46:03] <Gorath> also feeling the nature of energy around you helps as well
[20:46:11] <Gorath> one prime example is music
[20:46:28] <Gorath> Who here has listened to music and felt that charge around you?
[20:46:36] <Gorath> or been to a concert and gotten an energy high?
[20:46:39] <Asteroth> Me
[20:47:06] * Gorath raises his hand
[20:47:21] <Gorath> music is a good and prime example of the nature of energy
[20:47:28] <Gorath> music itself does not give you energy
[20:47:33] <ThundraFire> I have
[20:47:41] <Gorath> music elicits an emotional response
[20:47:41] <ThundraFire> especially when you djed
[20:47:50] * Gorath nods to thrundra
[20:47:55] <Gorath> glad you mentioned that
[20:48:11] <ThundraFire> 🙂
[20:48:11] <Gorath> We affect energy with our emotions
[20:48:21] <Asteroth> I feel it most when I listen to death metal or trance
[20:48:45] <Gorath> what we feel is not energy from the music, it’s the way the energy around us is being affected by our emotions
[20:49:23] <Gorath> couple that with the fact we can unconsiously “flavor” the energy with our subconsious, and you understand the nature of energy
[20:49:32] <Gorath> WE affect the change
[20:49:44] <Gorath> our thoughts, emotions, minds
[20:49:55] <Gorath> Thundra mentioned my Dj’ing
[20:50:01] <ThundraFire> 🙂
[20:50:11] <Gorath> my sets were engineered with that very purpose in mind
[20:50:11] <Asteroth> Yeah I have listened to you DJ a few times
[20:50:36] <Gorath> I feel how the music makes me feel and I combine the right songs
[20:50:48] <Asteroth> They were very good sets
[20:50:48] <Gorath> my goal is an emotional response
[20:50:52] <Gorath> thanks 🙂
[20:51:11] <MoonWind> i’ve always used music for meditation and i have music going in my head at all times, even in dreams.
[20:51:23] <Gorath> Adara loved my Succubus sets because the songs I chose were for that purpose
[20:51:42] <Adara> mhmm
[20:51:44] * Asteroth nods
[20:52:01] <Gorath> Moon: nods that is why music or sound has always been present with different sects, cults, religions, nature
[20:52:01] <MoonWind> mmhm, and Justin Beiber for the vampire sets. Because he sucks.
[20:52:18] * Gorath headdesks
[20:52:44] <Gorath> Speaking of Succubi
[20:52:56] * MoonWind hides behind Adara
[20:53:07] <Gorath> another example of emotion affecting energy
[20:53:26] <Gorath> Succubi love the “flavor” of sexual energy
[20:53:36] <Gorath> it’s still energy, just a different wrapper
[20:53:38] <MoonWind> tantric stuff?
[20:53:41] <Gorath> nods
[20:53:45] <Gorath> exactly
[20:54:05] <Gorath> you can’t just go to the store and order a bottle of sexenergy
[20:54:25] <Asteroth> I wouldn’t know anything about Succubi stuff
[20:54:26] <Gorath> “can I get a bottle of 5 hour SexEnergy”
[20:55:06] <Gorath> Succubi use arousal and sex to get the person’s emotions keyed just right to make a compatible “flavor”
[20:55:56] <Gorath> Physical Forces making Energy Courses
[20:56:08] <Gorath> ahhh see I was a poet and didn’t even konw it
[20:56:21] <ThundraFire> 😛
[20:57:18] <Gorath> but this nature of energy is something many people when learning and training totally skip
[20:57:31] <Adara> We manipulate the energy flows to arouse the person, until they build up the ‘meal’ for us
[20:57:33] <Gorath> they find their nitch and stick to it
[20:57:42] * Gorath nods to Adara
[20:57:49] * Asteroth raises eyebrow
[20:58:13] * MoonWind sits in Adara’s lap and listens
[20:58:22] * Gorath imagines Asteroth just pulled a Chris Griffen “whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?”
[20:58:24] * Adara pets
[20:58:30] <Adara> lol
[20:58:49] * EchoHereInName peeks in
[20:58:53] <EchoHereInName> is….is it over?
[20:58:55] <Adara> We say the right words, putting energy behind the emotion of them, the sheer force of the word with energy behind it.
[20:59:08] <Adara> The right pause
[20:59:12] <Adara> The right breath
[20:59:30] <Adara> Bringing to a point of pleasure
[20:59:36] <Asteroth> Well I wouldn’t know, like I said.
[20:59:42] * Adara nods
[20:59:43] <Gorath> nods
[20:59:48] <Gorath> was just an example
[20:59:53] <Adara> mhm
[21:00:20] <Gorath> basicly the point is that if you don’t know the nature of how you affect energy, than you can’t hope to make the best defense or offense
[21:01:02] <Gorath> You can build a wall with brick and mortar, but if you don’t know how it will stand on the base you’re using, most likely it’s going to fall
[21:01:22] <Gorath> I’m not saying go back to basics and try again
[21:01:25] <Gorath> use what you know
[21:01:50] <Gorath> but stop and do a little self-searching on how you affect Your world and the energy around you
[21:02:37] * Gorath has this urge to say “when 900 years old you reach, look as good you will not”
[21:03:05] <Adara> lol
[21:03:30] <Gorath> As I said before, energy is energy and nothing more than what it is
[21:03:59] <Gorath> no defense or offense will ever be perfect because by our very nature we are flawed
[21:04:06] <Gorath> that translates to our energy
[21:04:29] <Gorath> so understaning our role in the energy we use can only give us strength
[21:04:58] <Gorath> might find that what you are doing or using, really is not meant for you and might find some better method
[21:05:26] <Gorath> or you might find that little push you needed to get you past a hurdle in your learning and understanding
[21:05:28] <ThundraFire> 🙂
[21:05:56] <Gorath> as I said, I discovered that my nature was better at eating defenses and attacks
[21:06:26] <Asteroth> Thank you for your insight Gorath. I shall now go and chill out. Hugz if anyone wants them.
[21:06:37] <Gorath> Just sharing 🙂
[21:06:44] <Gorath> thanks for stopping by 🙂
[21:06:49] <Gorath> -hugs
[21:07:31] <Gorath> anyhow that’s as much as I will go into this session
[21:07:35] <Asteroth> Btw if you haven’t figured it out already, it’s me Victoria.
[21:07:39] <Gorath> brain is fried lol
[21:07:45] <Gorath> 🙂
[21:07:47] <Gorath> hey hon
[21:08:09] <Gorath> Anyone have any questions?
[21:08:28] <ThundraFire> 🙂
[21:08:33] <Asteroth> Take care Gorath *hugz again and waves*
[21:08:43] * Adara hugs Vic
[21:08:45] <Adara> nini
[21:09:44] * Asteroth hugs Adara back lots.
[21:09:47] <Asteroth> Night hun x
[21:10:57] <Gorath> Well if no one has any other questions now, just message me privately on skype or email me at
[21:11:21] <Gorath> I will never call myself an expert
[21:11:34] <Gorath> I just want to share my point of view with anyone that wants to listen
[21:12:01] <Gorath> Take what you will from it and at least you know there is another way of things

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